Comments on: Can philosophy replace religion? http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/ Just another Rogers Radio Blog weblog Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:40:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.3-2.2.1 By: Mike http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-964 Mike Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:47:29 +0000 http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-964 Lots of people see a conflict between science and religion. One reason I don't is because science will never be able to explain how life started. I think of science as the study of how man figures out, to the extent that it’s possible, what God did (physically). The theories about how old the world is and evolution are just that, theories. According to wikianswers carbon dating is useful back to 70,000 years. Is that completely true? I can’t say. It far more reasonable than scientists saying dinosaurs were walking around 75 or 150 million years ago. Most scientists proboably wouldn't want to say the world is 6,000, 20,000 or 100,000 years old. They'd probably be afraid of loosing their credibility. Too bad they can’t admit they can't prove anything and leave it. Besides that, if there was scientific evidence for God it would take away the whole point. Christians believe with faith. Jesus did miracles in front of people and they still doubted. Any possible proof would be argued and refuted today like it was then. Where did scientists come up with 4.5 billion years for the age of the world? It's ridiculous. They might as well get together and agree that it’s a bajillion years old. What’s the reasoning for 4.5 and not 3 or 9 billion? 4.5 thousand years was an incredibly long time ago. Lots of people see a conflict between science and religion. One reason I don’t is because science will never be able to explain how life started. I think of science as the study of how man figures out, to the extent that it’s possible, what God did (physically).

The theories about how old the world is and evolution are just that, theories. According to wikianswers carbon dating is useful back to 70,000 years. Is that completely true? I can’t say. It far more reasonable than scientists saying dinosaurs were walking around 75 or 150 million years ago.

Most scientists proboably wouldn’t want to say the world is 6,000, 20,000 or 100,000 years old. They’d probably be afraid of loosing their credibility. Too bad they can’t admit they can’t prove anything and leave it.

Besides that, if there was scientific evidence for God it would take away the whole point. Christians believe with faith. Jesus did miracles in front of people and they still doubted. Any possible proof would be argued and refuted today like it was then.

Where did scientists come up with 4.5 billion years for the age of the world? It’s ridiculous. They might as well get together and agree that it’s a bajillion years old. What’s the reasoning for 4.5 and not 3 or 9 billion? 4.5 thousand years was an incredibly long time ago.

]]> By: John http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-926 John Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:14:49 +0000 http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-926 In matters of religion and philosophy neither is wrong until you take it to extremes, or try to force your beliefs onto others. Religion is basically philosophy with a backstory, as far fetched as most of them are. Where people go wrong is taking the stories literally, instead of trying to looking into the morals behind them. In matters of religion and philosophy neither is wrong until you take it to extremes, or try to force your beliefs onto others. Religion is basically philosophy with a backstory, as far fetched as most of them are. Where people go wrong is taking the stories literally, instead of trying to looking into the morals behind them.

]]> By: Someone who has studied both http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-921 Someone who has studied both Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:03:44 +0000 http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-921 This question of 'replacement' is entrenched in so many arrogant and ignorant modern presuppositions that it is not even worth discussing. Up until quite recently, humans have not at all understood 'philosophy' as being opposed to 'religion' per se, but knew them as mutually dependent and complementary. To get a sense of this, you only have to read anything from Plato to St. Thomas Aquinas -- or even Islamic thinkers like al-Ghazali or Averroes. Try looking up Empedocles, St Augustine, Hegel, etc... Until we can begin to recover that older attitude and start thinking outside the box, we will just keep the bombs going and destroy ourselves, because we have no other way to communicate. This question of ‘replacement’ is entrenched in so many arrogant and ignorant modern presuppositions that it is not even worth discussing. Up until quite recently, humans have not at all understood ‘philosophy’ as being opposed to ‘religion’ per se, but knew them as mutually dependent and complementary. To get a sense of this, you only have to read anything from Plato to St. Thomas Aquinas — or even Islamic thinkers like al-Ghazali or Averroes. Try looking up Empedocles, St Augustine, Hegel, etc… Until we can begin to recover that older attitude and start thinking outside the box, we will just keep the bombs going and destroy ourselves, because we have no other way to communicate.

]]> By: Janet http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-911 Janet Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:12:28 +0000 http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-911 Philosophy may replace religion, and in some instances all ready has I think, but it will never replace God. That is totally impossible! Faith would trump philosophy anyday. Besides, how many philosophers have ever read the Bible anyway. Philosophers constantly pose questions and hope to come up with an answer. With faith, you have the answer, you just need to wait until it becomes a reality. I'm not against philosphy, in fact I heard this guest on the show and wouldn't mind gettting the book. I just think that no other book can replace the Bible. It is a more intrigueing read. Philosophy may replace religion, and in some instances all ready has I think, but it will never replace God. That is totally impossible! Faith would trump philosophy anyday. Besides, how many philosophers have ever read the Bible anyway. Philosophers constantly pose questions and hope to come up with an answer. With faith, you have the answer, you just need to wait until it becomes a reality. I’m not against philosphy, in fact I heard this guest on the show and wouldn’t mind gettting the book. I just think that no other book can replace the Bible. It is a more intrigueing read.

]]> By: A Cranky Guy who wonders: Why we are here? http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-900 A Cranky Guy who wonders: Why we are here? Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:15:11 +0000 http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-900 Religion is irrational, illogical, and unreasonable, interesting stories of fiction. One must accept reality, the power of the mind. The listeners of your program should begin research on Objectivism. Religion is irrational, illogical, and unreasonable, interesting stories of fiction. One must accept reality, the power of the mind. The listeners of your program should begin research on Objectivism.

]]> By: John http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-885 John Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:33:43 +0000 http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-885 You say philosophy is from man, you cannot prove that religion is from god. There is no real scientific evidence. You say philosophy is from man, you cannot prove that religion is from god. There is no real scientific evidence.

]]> By: Bob http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-878 Bob Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:06:49 +0000 http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-878 The only way that philosophy will replace religion is if a ton of people share the same experience. Say an alien race contacts us or we find out a huge comet is going to collide with us. I think it will take something totally epic to ever get philosophy to replace religion. The philosophy of survival trumps everything. The only way that philosophy will replace religion is if a ton of people share the same experience. Say an alien race contacts us or we find out a huge comet is going to collide with us. I think it will take something totally epic to ever get philosophy to replace religion. The philosophy of survival trumps everything.

]]> By: Flavia Lytle http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-876 Flavia Lytle Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:40:18 +0000 http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-876 There is no doubt that vision is what it's all about! There is no doubt that vision is what it’s all about!

]]> By: Flavia Lytle http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-875 Flavia Lytle Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:39:54 +0000 http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-875 There is no doubt that Barb commands each of us to be sincere and fearless-to be engaged in our communities and be active in solution making rather than being part of the problems. We can take things to a better place collectively-it's about VISION! Great job! There is no doubt that Barb commands each of us to be sincere and fearless-to be engaged in our communities and be active in solution making rather than being part of the problems. We can take things to a better place collectively-it’s about VISION!

Great job!

]]> By: Mike http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-873 Mike Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:14:14 +0000 http://blog.rogersradiointernet.com/andrewkrystal/2008/03/07/can-philosophy-replace-religion/#comment-873 Philosophy couldn't replace religion because it comes from man or in this case a woman. Religion isn't from either. It's from God and it's that simple. Lots of people are experts at making simple complicated. Not to say this is 100% simple, it's a good question. If someone learns something from philosophy that's fine. If someone improves their quality of life from it, that's fine too. If someone wanted to replace religion with it they'd be replacing God with man and that just wouldn't work. Philosophy is mankind's attempt to replace religion. It couldn't because truth isn't a subjective thing. If it was it would be different for each person which isn't what truth is. "Truth" by definition is something that's true for everyone. It's more than a fact, which is what philosophy wants to answer. Truth is an objective thing. It exists outside people. If someone asked what's truth? No possible answer is going to come from man, or woman, as if he or she could tell you from their own thoughts. Ever wonder why political correctness is an ongoing topic? I think it's because there's a breakdown of common sense. Why is that? Probably because more people are getting further away from God, in this country anyway. "Every conversation pre-supposes the idea of truth. Our brains couldn't function without it." -Pastor John MacArthur. How would someone find out about God? Whatever it is it's summed up in the scriptures: "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened." -Matt ch 7 vs. 7-8. That's truth but no one has to take my word on it. If anyone wanted to know, they can try it. Mike Philosophy couldn’t replace religion because it comes from man or in this case a woman. Religion isn’t from either. It’s from God and it’s that simple. Lots of people are experts at making simple complicated. Not to say this is 100% simple, it’s a good question.

If someone learns something from philosophy that’s fine. If someone improves their quality of life from it, that’s fine too. If someone wanted to replace religion with it they’d be replacing God with man and that just wouldn’t work.

Philosophy is mankind’s attempt to replace religion. It couldn’t because truth isn’t a subjective thing. If it was it would be different for each person which isn’t what truth is. “Truth” by definition is something that’s true for everyone. It’s more than a fact, which is what philosophy wants to answer.

Truth is an objective thing. It exists outside people. If someone asked what’s truth? No possible answer is going to come from man, or woman, as if he or she could tell you from their own thoughts.

Ever wonder why political correctness is an ongoing topic? I think it’s because there’s a breakdown of common sense. Why is that? Probably because more people are getting further away from God, in this country anyway.

“Every conversation pre-supposes the idea of truth. Our brains couldn’t function without it.” -Pastor John MacArthur.

How would someone find out about God? Whatever it is it’s summed up in the scriptures:

“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.” -Matt ch 7 vs. 7-8.

That’s truth but no one has to take my word on it. If anyone wanted to know, they can try it.

Mike

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